lunes, 31 de agosto de 2026

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH HSH PRINCE BENTHEIM FOR LA MESA DE LOS NOTABLES.

THE COUNTS OF HOLLAND, THE ORDER OF SAINT JAMES, AND THE EXPANSION OF THE CHRISTIAN KINGDOMS. 

Baron Rudolph Andries Ulrich Juchter van Bergen Quast requested an audience with His Serene Highness Prince Georg zu Bentheim und Steinfurt for the purpose of conducting an exclusive interview for our blog, La Mesa de los Notables. The conversation arises from a purpose that goes beyond mere testimonial interest: to serve as an appeal to historians, archivists, and researchers to explore more deeply the earliest relations between the Counts of Holland and the Order of Santiago, as well as their participation in the expansion of the Christian kingdoms of the Iberian Peninsula during the twelfth and thirteenth centuries.

Although certain episodes of particular significance are known, such as the presence of Count William I of Holland at the siege of Alcácer do Sal in 1217, a considerable part of the documentation preserved in Spanish and Portuguese archives has yet to be systematically examined from this perspective.

This interview also seeks to arouse the interest of those working in Spanish, Portuguese, or ecclesiastical archives who may be in a position to locate unpublished or little-studied letters, references contained in chronicles, lists of combatants, or other documentary evidence relating to the presence of knights from northern Europe and, in particular, members of the House of Holland or persons associated with it in the medieval Iberian Peninsula.

Bringing such discoveries to light and making them known among the members of the Order could help to clarify historical ties that form part of the shared memory of European chivalry and of the relationships that, throughout the Middle Ages, linked the northern and southern territories of Latin Christendom.

With the aim of placing this subject within its proper historical and dynastic context, and of addressing both its medieval background and its significance in the present day, His Serene Highness Prince Georg zu Bentheim und Steinfurt responds exclusively to the Baron’s questions for La Mesa de los Notables:

Interviewer: Welcome, Your Serene Highness. Thank you for speaking with us today. While your family is renowned for its centuries of history, your own path has included some very modern pursuits. Could you tell us about your professional background before focusing on your dynastic duties?

Prince Bentheim: Thank you for having me. Yes, indeed. Before taking on my current responsibilities, I built a career in the financial sector. I worked as a banker for Merrill Lynch in New York. It was a highly dynamic and demanding environment, quite a contrast from the quiet historical archives of European nobility, but it gave me invaluable global experience.

Interviewer: That is quite a transition. Looking through your family's rich history, there are many remarkable figures, but one of the persons that most fascinates me is your ancestor Count Karl Paul Ernst. His life has been an incredible blend of governance and culture. Could you share his story with us?

Prince Bentheim: I would be delighted. Karl Paul Ernst Graf zu Bentheim-Steinfurt was the Count of Steinfurt and lived from 1729 to 1780. He is widely remembered as the founder of the high musical culture in Burgsteinfurt. As a young man, accompanied by his tutor, professor and jurist Johann Christoph Buch, he embarked on extensive travels to enhance his proficiency in the French language. He eventually assumed his governmental responsibilities in 1750, after obtaining imperial sanction.

Interviewer: He also spent time in France during a very significant historical period, didn't he?

Prince Bentheim: Yes, he did. During the Seven Years’ War, which took place from 1756 to 1763, Karl resided in Paris. It was a transformative time for him; he was introduced to Freemasonry and had the privilege of meeting Voltaire, becoming a devoted admirer of the philosopher. His time in Paris proved to be intellectually stimulating. He formed associations with prominent Enlightenment figures such as Diderot and d’Alembert, and passionately pursued his interests in music, languages, literature, and the natural sciences. Interestingly, Benjamin Franklin was also in Paris during this period, from 1779 to 1782. Franklin later served as Venerable Master of the Masonic Lodge Neuf Soeurs, which was highly influential in organising French support for the American Revolution.

Interviewer: Your family also holds connections to the Dutch Royal family. How did that kinship come about?

Prince Bentheim: That connection is clearly visible in our genealogy through the House of Nassau, as well as the Waldeck-Pyrmont lineage. For instance, Karl Paul Ernst married Charlotte Sophie von Nassau-Siegen, who lived from 1729 to 1759. She was the daughter of Friedrich Wilhelm II Nassau-Siegen and Sophie Polyxena Concordia von Sayn-Wittgenstein-Hohenstein. Because the Nassau-Siegen branch shares its direct roots with the broader House of Nassau, which is the lineage of the Dutch Royal family, our families are historically bound together. This bond was further strengthened later on, when my ancestor Alexis, the 4th Prince of Bentheim and Steinfurt, married Princess Pauline of Waldeck and Pyrmont. My mother also is a princess of Waldeck and Pyrmont. This family is of course very significant to The Netherlands, as the Waldeck-Pyrmont lineage is the family of Queen Emma of the Netherlands, cementing our close familial ties with the Dutch Royal family. 


Interviewer: And your family is also bonded with the Most Noble Equestrian Order of Saint James, an Order that was formed in medieval Holland by your family.

Prince Bentheim: Correct. Our connection to the Counts of Holland is fundamental to our family's identity [reference 1]. The princely House of Bentheim und Steinfurt is regarded as a legal and direct successor of the last heiress of the Counts of Holland. This deep, ancestral lineage intrinsically links us again to The Netherlands. It is through this direct descent that we proudly carry forward the living legacy of the Counts of Holland, which naturally includes our role as custodians of the Most Noble Equestrian Order of Saint James, originally founded by the Counts of Holland.

Interviewer: What is the historical connection between your family's Order of Saint James and the famous Spanish Order of Santiago?

Prince Bentheim: The connection is primarily one of shared cultural resonance and historical inspiration, rather than a direct institutional lineage. The foundational link occurred when Count Willem I of Holland, the grandfather of Floris V, fought alongside the Spanish Order of Santiago during the siege of Alcácer do Sal between 30 July and 18 October 1217. During this campaign, Willem I witnessed firsthand the military prowess of the Spanish knights, their integral role in the expansion of the Christian kingdoms, and their partnership with the Portuguese crown. This positive encounter likely created a lasting awareness within the comital house, ultimately inspiring Floris V to adopt the prestigious name and concept to serve his own distinct political and comital ambitions in 1290.

Interviewer: Could you elaborate on how Count Willem I’s military campaign in Spain and Portugal in 1217 forged this initial bond with the Spanish knights of Santiago?

Prince Bentheim: It was a crucial turning point during the Fifth Crusade. Count Willem I of Holland led a fleet of crusaders from the Low Countries who stopped along the Iberian Peninsula to assist Christian forces during the expansion of the Christian kingdoms. Following a decisive victory against the Almohad forces on 11 September 1217, the city was surrendered and subsequently handed over to the Spanish Order of Santiago. This shared campaign established a direct rapport between the comital house of Holland and the Iberian chivalric elite, instilling a deep respect for the Spanish order’s martial discipline and noble organization.

Interviewer: While the siege of Alcácer do Sal in 1217 is well documented, much of the broader involvement of the Counts of Holland in the Iberian Peninsula remains to be fully explored. Are there still missing pieces to this historical puzzle, and how can the scholarly community assist?

Prince Bentheim: Absolutely. While we have key milestones documented, vast amounts of material in Spanish and Portuguese archives remain unexamined regarding the presence of northern crusaders during the expansion of the Christian kingdoms. Repositories such as the Archivo Histórico Nacional in Madrid, the Archivo General de Simancas, and various ecclesiastical archives in Galicia, Castile, and Portugal likely hold unstudied charters, letters, or chronicle fragments mentioning northern knights. We would warmly invite historians, archivists, doctoral researchers, and knowledgeable readers to collaborate with us in investigating these Spanish archives. If anyone uncovers references to the Counts of Holland or early knightly contacts between the Low Countries and Spain from the 12th and 13th centuries, we encourage them to reach out to the order. Collaborative academic inquiry is essential if we are to bring these forgotten historical ties back into the light.

Interviewer: Beyond the military partnership, how did the pilgrimage culture centered around Santiago de Compostela in Galicia influence the house of Holland?

Prince Bentheim: Santiago de Compostela was one of the three major pilgrimage centers of medieval Christendom, alongside Rome and Jerusalem. The veneration of Saint James the Greater and the network of routes along the Way of St. James (Camino de Santiago) had a profound impact across Western Europe, including the Low Countries. The iconic symbols of the Spanish pilgrimage, most notably the scallop shell (concha de Santiago) and the red sword-cross, were recognized as emblems of faith, honour, and protection. When Floris V later founded our order in 1290, invoking Saint James allowed the Counts of Holland to connect their courtly chivalry directly to the prestigious spiritual and Iberian traditions associated with Compostela.


Interviewer: Did the organizational structure of the Spanish Order of Santiago serve as a model when Count Floris V established the Dutch Order of Saint James in 1290?

Prince Bentheim: Yes, in many practical ways. Unlike monastic military orders such as the Knights Templar, which required strict vows of celibacy, the Spanish Order of Santiago developed statutes that permitted its knights to marry and retain personal wealth while maintaining a noble calling. This flexible Iberian model was very appealing to secular rulers. When Count Floris V created the Order of Saint James in 1290, he sought a courtly structure that could bind powerful nobles and wealthy patricians to the comital crown without requiring them to enter a monastic life. The Spanish blueprint demonstrated how a chivalric order could function as both a prestigious brotherhood and an effective instrument of statecraft.

Interviewer: It is fascinating how historical records survive the centuries. How do the French archives of the Order of the Golden Fleece shed light on your order's history?

Prince Bentheim: They provide a vital case study in early modern historical preservation and legitimacy. A distinct dossier within the Chifflet Collection, preserved at the municipal library of Besançon, contains a detailed correspondence between Jules Chifflet and Thymon van Schoonhoven. Chifflet served as the 19th Chancellor of the Order of the Golden Fleece, while Van Schoonhoven was a prominent patrician and civic administrator from Rotterdam. Together, they utilized the scholarly evidence of the Flemish scholar Petrus Montanus to establish the ancient, continuous lineage of the Dutch chivalric tradition. By formally incorporating these documents into his collection, Chifflet effectively recognized the Order of Saint James, integrating the heritage of the northern Netherlands into the broader Habsburg-Burgundian chivalric context despite the religious and political schisms of the era.

Interviewer: Count Floris V was known for elevating commoners to knights. Can you explain the role of the wealthy Dutch patricians in the formation of the Order?

Prince Bentheim: It was a highly calculated political mechanism designed to secure essential capital and create a loyal counterweight to the traditional aristocracy. Floris V's relentless expansionist policies and geopolitical ambitions generated expenditures that far exceeded traditional feudal revenues, forcing him to rely heavily on the accumulated wealth of the commercial elite. A perfect example is the Utrecht patrician Lambert de Vries, who acted as a chief creditor. After assuming an overwhelming £12,000 Hollands debt liability for the Count in 1291, De Vries was formally knighted by Floris V by 22 April 1292. This elevation was a direct transactional reward for underwriting princely finances, demonstrating how the Count utilized his sovereign authority—the fons honorum—to promote loyal burghers into the nobility.

Interviewer: The Order of Saint James is clearly very internationally oriented today, but it seems this global outlook is deeply rooted in its very foundations. Could you elaborate on how the Order's founder, Count Floris V, approached international diplomacy and how his broad European ambitions ultimately impacted his reign?

Prince Bentheim: As the son of a Holy Roman Emperor (William II), Count Floris V of Holland naturally inherited a broad European perspective, which he further expanded by actively projecting his influence across the major courts of the thirteenth century. Recognizing that his county's prosperity relied heavily on the wool trade, the founder of the Order of Saint James forged strategic, albeit shifting, alliances with powerful monarchs like King Edward I of England and King Philip IV of France, while also marrying Beatrice of Dampierre to broker peace with his rivals in Flanders. His geopolitical ambitions extended well beyond the Low Countries; in 1292, he even crossed the North Sea to assert a dynastic claim to the Scottish throne during the succession crisis known as the Great Cause. Ultimately, this deep entanglement in European high politics sealed his fate, as his decision to shift his allegiance from England to France prompted an angered Edward I to conspire with disgruntled local nobles, resulting in the Count's assassination on 27 June 1296.

Interviewer: The order continues to thrive today. I understand it is now a network of men and women of achievement, including captains of industry operating internationally. Could you tell us more about its current focus on chivalric norms and values, the history of the order, and business development for its members?

Prince Bentheim: Yes, it is a dynamic, global network built on ancient foundations. Today, the Most Noble Equestrian Order of Saint James has evolved into an exclusive, international community of highly accomplished men and women. Membership is by invitation only, and our members are indeed often captains of industry and leaders in their respective fields. While we remain deeply committed to preserving the rich history of the order and upholding traditional chivalric norms and values, we are equally focused on the present and future. We actively foster business development, creating a trusted environment where our members can connect, exchange ideas, and collaborate on an international scale. To give you an example, this September we will host a special gathering that perfectly reflects this balance: it will begin with a solemn religious service to honour our heritage, and the following day we will enjoy a sportive and highly exclusive polo event for our members. Polo is played all over the world, with a strong presence in Argentina, but it also has a wilder history - in Kenya, for instance, I remember that lions first had to be chased off the pitch before our game could even begin! 


Interviewer: Turning to your personal life, you live with your wife, Princess Madeleine, in the beautiful region of Tegernsee in Bavaria, just south of Munich. I understand your son, Prince Maximilian, is also deeply involved as the Vice Governor of the Order of Saint James. Could you share a bit about your family life in this stunning location and what it means to have your son engaged in the Order's leadership?

Prince Bentheim: It is truly a blessing. Princess Madeleine and I deeply cherish our life in Tegernsee. It is a magnificent place; being situated near Munich and so close to Austria and Italy gives the area a wonderful, cross-cultural atmosphere. We live right across the road from the lake, which provides an incredibly peaceful and inspiring environment. As for Maximilian, seeing him step into the role of Vice Governor fills me with immense pride. Having the next generation actively involved ensures that our family's historical legacy and the modern endeavours of the order will continue to flourish for years to come.

Interviewer: Your family’s ties to Spain clearly extend into your personal life as well through your wife, Princess Madeleine. Could you tell us a bit about her connection to the country?

Prince Bentheim: Yes, indeed. Spain holds a very special place in our household. Madeleine grew up in Las Palmas on Gran Canaria, where her father owned a hotel. During those formative years on the island, she attended a convent school, an experience that shaped her deeply and gave her a profound appreciation for the culture. As a result, she speaks Spanish fluently and holds a deep, lifelong affection for the country. Having that vibrant, personal connection to Spain in our daily life makes our family’s historical ties to the Iberian Peninsula feel even more immediate and meaningful.

Interviewer: Thank you so much for your time and for sharing these extraordinary insights into your family's enduring legacy, Your Serene Highness.

Prince Bentheim: You are very welcome; it has been a true pleasure speaking with you today, and I thank you for such a fascinating conversation.

Reference.

(1) Gothaisches Genealogisches Handbuch: Fürstliche Häuser 2018, GGH 7 – Bentheim, II. Linie: Bentheim und Steinfurt, Verlag des Deutschen Adelsarchivs, Marburg 2018, S. 200–208.

Images.

1. Louvre Museum. Edmond de Rothschild Collection. Jacques Charles Bar, Knight of Santiago in Holland. Paris 1778/79.

2. Dirk V (1054–1091), a Frisian count (comes Fresonum) who ruled the territories that would later become known as the County of Holland. He was the son of Gertrude of Saxony and her first husband, Floris I. Source: Hollandse jaar-boeken of Rijm-kronijk van Melis Stoke. Behelsende de geschiedenissen des lands, onder de Princen van het eerste Huis, tot den jare 1305.

3. Coat of arms of the Princes of Bentheim-Steinfurt. From: Coat of Arms. Stemma Verlag: Germany. Published circa 1820. Copper engraving of a coat of arms circa 1820.

4. This photograph was taken on the occasion of the investiture dinner at the Grote Kerk in Dordrecht on May 23, 2026. From left to right: HHS Maximilian Prinz zu Bentheim und Steinfurt, KJH (Deputy Governor); HHS Carl-Ferdinand Fürst zu Bentheim-Steinfurt, KJH (Head of the House of Bentheim-Steinfurt); HHS Georg-Viktor Prinz zu Bentheim und Steinfurt, KJH (Governor). Photo credit: Princess Madeleine zu Bentheim und Steinfurt, DJH.

Publicado por La Mesa de los Notables.